Wow. I had NO idea what a nerve I would touch here. It seems like everyone either has been in this situation or knows someone who has or knows someone like the ferret. So...thank you for your comments. And thank you, too, for all the e-mails (and especially the one from you, Utah, offering to come knock her teeth out.)
I talked to Bing. Not that I felt it was absolutely necessary, but because Harriet talked me into it. I called Harriet, she and I met for coffee and we discussed it. First, she made me laugh.
"Oh, good fucking hell...let's go....PIE...her!"
This is funny only to us, I suppose. About five years ago, Harriet and I exchanged "wish" lists. Things that we want to do before we die. We vowed to help each other achieve the wishes. One of the wishes on her list was: I want to throw a pie in someone's face who has really pissed me off.
So...hence the pie line.
But, basically, she said that I needed to talk to Bing, that even if I claimed that this didn't bother me, it must if I was talking to her about it.
I thought about it and agreed.
So, I just asked Bing about it last night after Liv was in bed. I told her that I had been searching out the purse in her closet and found the shoebox of notes and cards and asked her what was up with that.
She looked at me blankly.
"Well," she said. "Yeah, I keep a box of cards and photos from Margaret. It isn't as if I were hiding them, Maria. They are right next to my work out shoes, in plain sight."
I asked her why she was so sentimental about them.
She was slow in answering and then she said, "You know, you keep a box of cards and letters from Harriet, Tinton, Nirand, Utah, Vince, and Thuan..."
She's right. I do. And as I thought about it, I realized that not only do I keep a memory box, Harriet and I also have a friends anniversary that we celebrate. We go out for dinner and exchange gifts.
I told Bing that the difference was that I shared all the notes in there with her, I didn't just squirrel them away.
She gave me a long look.
"ALL of them?" she asked.
Hmm. Maybe not all of them. Most of them. A few of them just felt too personal to share, but JAYSUS...I wasn't hiding them or anything...
I told her this. She nodded.
"Neither am I...," she said.
Then she told me that she knew that I strongly disliked Margaret and that she figured that I would just make fun of the bad spelling and the notes in general.
"¥ou know how you are," she said. "You can be pretty sarcastic..."
She's right. I can be.
"And...well...yeah, I like the notes and the photos. I like Margaret. Honestly, I have no idea why you hate her so much. And she is constantly teasing me about how whipped I am over you, says that I should wear a tee shirt saying I AM IN LOVE WITH A GODDESS. I mean, think about it, you have all these people who are nuts about you, send you cards and letters, call you just to talk, and well...I just have Margaret. I have lots of acquaintances, I don't have friends who worship me like you do."
I thought about this too. Bing has only been in hearing distance once when the ferret has gone into her snotty ass comment mode with me. It was when she was talking about how she could NEVER give up her career to have stayed home to raise her children for fear of losing her brain power. Bing sort of snorted and said something like that she pitied the fool who took on me in the brains department and that she is always telling me to go on Jeopardy! because we could really, really use the money and I know the answer to every damn question Alex asks anyway....
And then Bing went on.
"You know, Margaret acts differently when you are around, I think she feels very insecure around you. She has told me, too, that you make her feel stupid. I wish you could see how funny and good natured she can be but I think she just gets jittery around you..."
Well, fuck that. The simple truth is that I fight back. When she goes into her haughty act, I say something, but I keep it very low key. For example, when she said that she was raised by Jesuits, I just asked her if that meant she went to Catholic school. When she said yes, I said, "Oh, well, I guess I was um...raised by Jesuits too, then..."
Except, okay, I said it in this voice that let her know that I thought she was a pretentious ass.
And once, when she was complaining about her supervisor, she said, "It's as if he thinks I'm not as smart as a picnic basket, for godsakes."
And well...I said (in a completely deadpan voice), "Oh, Margaret, I think you are probably just as smart as a picnic basket, maybe even more so."
So, yeah...I give as good as I get. The difference being that I don't use my...um...razor sharp rapier wit against people that I....LIKE.
I told Bing that the bottom line was that I felt uncomfortable with the box and it bothered me to feel that way.
"So, what do you want to do?" she asked. "Should we both burn our shoe boxes? Because if I have to burn mine, I think you should burn yours...."
Ouch.
She softened then.
Hugged me. Did that nuzzling thing with her nose against my cheek that is very, very nice.
"God, I can't believe you are actually JEALOUS...I'm sorry, but I kind of....LIKE this. You are never jealous," she commented.
I had to smile.
"I'm not THAT jealous," I retorted. "Maybe just a little bit. Maybe just like...a wee bit. Like maybe an inch. No. Maybe a quarter inch."
And then the phone rang and it was a friend who had locked herself out of her house and needed one of us to run her over the spare key. So, we didn't get to talk further about it until we were in bed.
I told her to forget about the box. That it was no big deal. That I couldn't help it, I thought Margaret was a total bitch but, well...if Bing liked her THAT much, I wasn't going to stand in the way or make a federal case out of this.
And Bing said that yes, she did like Margaret, she was sorry if that bothered me, that if it was going to come between us, she'd end the friendship, but she really, really didn't want to do that and besides, it would make her feel like I was some sort of friend dictator.
We agreed that it was my right to dislike Margaret and her right to like her.
I asked Bing if she gave Margaret a lot of cards.
She thought about this.
"I think I gave her a birthday card," she said. "And when she sprained her ankle, I bought her a foot wrap that helped me when I sprained mine. And I send her funny e-mails sometimes. Am I supposed to report to you now when I do this kind of shit?"
I told her no, of course not. I don't tell her about every card I send to Harriet or anyone else.
So, we talked it out.
It isn't completely resolved but about as resolved as this is going get, I'm afraid.
I can live with it. I can live with Margaret.
Well, not literally. But, I admit that I enjoy knowing that I rattle her a bit. I enjoy that QUITE a lot.
And knowing me, I will use it to my advantage because I am not a particularly kind person when it comes to people like the ferret.
But, Bing and me? We are fine.
But, you know...I am sort of in the mood for some....
PIE.
And I know just the person to call.....
38 comments:
You are the wind beneath my mother fucking wings, Maria! And that's all I have to say about that.
see that? even people like the ferret have a reason for living...in this case, to bring you and Bing closer together, and give you someone on which to practice sarcastic retorts. now if only someone could save that poor guy the ferret is married to (i hope he has a boyfriend on the side)....
oh how i love a happy ending :)
I love that you talked it out with Bing and got to know how much you rattle her :) I'm going to remember this!
I read both posts and think they were completely hilarious, real and very human. These things are never truly resolved are they, but as resolved as they are going to be.
I hope you and Harriet go get to throw pies. And soon!
yeah...that's right...so the ferret had a function in this world after all! i bet you feel 100 +% better after all of this. and it is good that you could talk about it with Bing like two adults with neither of you getting hairy about it. how envious!
I'm glad you and Bing talked.
I have been impressed with your sacrfices for motherhood and Liv. Without realizing it, especially in difficult times, we are always role modeling for our children healthy (or unhealthy, if that is the case) adult relationships. While Liv may never know about this specific conversation, by having it and coming to a better understanding of the situation, you have made Liv's life safer and securer. How she sees you handle life will help her as she grows and strikes out on her own.
I hope this new found understanding of the situation puts a spring in your step and a smile in your heart, because life is too short and our loved ones too precious to waste a day in uncertainty
Bing is the bomb and I KNEW she would be calm and rational about it. You are a lucky woman Maria and so is Bing.
And Raven, thank you for bringing Susan Boyle to my attention. Holy Cow. Fantastic.....all the luck in the world is wished for her.
A great outcome all around. I knew you'd find the right way to handle it! Loved your replies to her sarcasm too!
Just from reading a short time I didn't get the feeling that Bing was hiding that box from you and I'm so happy to read that she wasn't. I can completely understand her hesitance in sharing the contents with you knowing that you might poke fun at them. That makes a lot of sense to me. I might have said the same thing she did about "if I gotta get rid of my box, so do you" and also when Bing liked it that you were a little jealous. I had to giggle while reading. I'm growing to like you both very much.
I think it's wonderful that you were able to discuss things without it escalating into a needless argument.
Wouldn't it be nice if all disagreements could be that way?
I'll bet you feel a whole lot better, Maria. I do! Ditto jyankee's comment about adult behavior. Whew!
It's real honest of Bing to tell you how she feels about having her one accolyte. Maybe she will be more tuned into the woman's behavior in regards to you and put the ferret in her place when she needs the reminder. I hope so. Partners need to stick up for each other.
And, super bonus knowing how you make the ferret feel! Oh yes, you'll be able to put that knowledge to good use...
::evil chuckle::
:-)
Good.
Glad to hear it all worked ok. I knew it would. :)
Taaa Daaaa...way to go, both of you.
I'm really happy for you that all this turned out okay. I think the talk you had helped not blowing the box out of proportions in your mind, so obviously you made the right decision in the end.
And Bing is one cool sistah! I think she handled that talk really well.
Cheers,
Anna
Love it. Well done!
Oh, man, I love a happy ending!
So glad you two talked and secretly wondering if the deleted comment was from the deranged ferret.
Maria, you and Bing just absolutely warm my heart. And I'm so glad you talked, I was a bit worried too.
Good job!
I have an award for you over at my spot. Stop by and pick it up. :)
Good job, both of you!
But I do hope that Margaret the Ferret is not a teacher (teecher?) since she can't spell.
Glad to hear how it all worked out and I must say, I am overall impressed with the love and wisdom of your readers!
ZC
Can I add a PS that as single mom of girl Liz' age who is dealing with work crap/budget cutbacks/changing schedules/etc.... i don't know waht I want to add except that sometimes it is so damned hard, so damned scary... I feel so damned vulnerable... and I guess I feel I could share that here! Because she is important to me... she is the most important thing to me. I don't fear losing brain matter. I fear being a crappy parent.
That's all.
It's just one of those nights when I'm having a hard time figuring how I'm gonna make it all work... I guess I need one of those walks in the woods for insights...
ZC
You two are...like...the paragons of loving partners! Very human. Very loving.
Glad it all worked out... Sounds like your BFF gave you great advice. Enjoy your pie!
Aah. All's well that ends well. Sometimes a little reassurance is all we need to put our green-eyed monsters back in their box!
Now I'm thinking about who I'd like to pie...
Maria, I'm glad you and Bing talked it out, and you were able to come to a resolution where you both feel better. :-)
Be well!
I'm so glad you were able to talk it out Maria. I was thinking you would need to clear the air a bit with Bing so that you didn't have to keep a secret on top of a secret! Yeah, you never want a tower of those to start. :)
Yes, these things do happen in relationships but the sound discussions from each person involved are so key to the outcome aren't they?
Of course it ALWAYS helps to get a nice creamy pie armed and ready just. in. case. And, you know, you can always eat it if things resolve quickly and don't decline to clown level retribution. :D
Good that you talked about it and that you have both decided to keep your boxes.
I think maybe you should get Bing the I'M IN LOVE WITH A GODDESS tee shirt and then make her wear it to the gym.
Tell her that Margaret may be smarter than you give her credit for, as, in this particular case, great minds think alike.
jealous wench.
love it! so glad you guys were able to work it out!
Shell & I had a similar situation a few years back and we talked it to death until I felt better. And it is okay now, better than okay actually.
So good for you for hashing it out with Bing. And for her not getting too defensive and guilty about it. Sounds like a win-win to me.
I'm glad you were able to talk it through, and at least get to a point where you are both sort of ok with things.
I can sort of relate. Kim has a friend who I am stark-raving, insanely jealous of. I didn't talk about it for several months, and it really bothered me. We finally talked about it, and, well, it is as resolved as it is going to be for us too.
Where my situation is different, is that Kim really had no clue that I had any negative feelings about this woman, and, probably more important, I didn't have any negative experiences with this woman. She really is nice as can be. And she really is very kind to me whenever we have occasion to interact, which is rare... cause I avoid her as much as possible -- fairly easy b/c it is someone we know primarily online. But Kim and I met online, so that does not make me feel more secure about their friendship at all.
I think I've mentioned something about this woman before on a different blog post of yours. But anyway, it bothers me that I feel so strongly negative about her. I've never had a reaction quite like this to anyone before. And I don't think of myself as a jealous person generally. But she brings out the very worst in me.
Someone on the last post said something about it being disrespectful or something, of Bing to be friends with someone that you don't like. ... Well, maybe, but maybe not. I think a lot depends on if your feelings are, umm, rational, or not. And only you can make that call for yourself. For *me*? I know that my feelings are totally irrational and not grounded in any sort of reality at all. It would be wrong for *me* to become the friend police over someone like this.
So... Kim knows how I feel. She, probably wisely, very rarely talks to me about her *at all* anymore. And when she does, I'm polite... and hide my inner bitch.
Meanwhile, if this perfectly nice woman were to drop off the face of the earth, I think I would be quite ok with that. And I hate that about myself.
(Sorry to write a book... these posts really struck a nerve. As if you couldn't tell!)
That's really cool that you guys talked. I would have just restashed the box and probably let it build into something it just wasn't.
That's really cool that you guys talked. I would have just restashed the box and probably let it build into something it just wasn't.
I think it's great that you guys talked. I would have just stashed the box back and let it build up in my mind to something it just wasn't.
Good for you for saying something. If you hadn't, it would have eaten you. I'm happy to hear that it isn't what you (reasonably) feared it might be. She's a good wife.
And Margaret, well... she sounds like a total twit. She can't hurt you. Just realize that she needs to be a twit for whatever reason, and let it be. At least, that's what my therapist says.
I'm grinning from ear to ear here. :) I'm glad you guys talked about it and worked it out. Marriage can be hard work sometimes, but it's totally worth it, isn't it? :)
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