"Well, she DID say that Burt (her friend's father) rides it with them," I answered.
Good was all Bing would say about that.
I spent yesterday doing household chores to keep busy while Bing went to a friend's house to jam. I know from experience that when musicians do this, it might be hours before she came home. So..I windexed all the windows and mirrors and rubbed lemon oil into the furniture. Played June Cleaver...except I didn't bake. I'm not that stupid. No sense in poisoning everyone.
Bing came home in time for dinner and we decided to go out for a sandwich. We had some issues to hash through and I think her reasoning was that if I was in a restaurant, I would not get shrill.....
Bing is pretty fucking smart....
Our problem revolves around jealousy and I find that a bit embarrassing because I like to brag that I am not a jealous person.
That is a lie.
Bing has an ex. She lives in our city. At one time, she and Bing were very close, so close that Bing became very attached to this woman's children, who are both in college now.
This woman's name is Annie. I call her ferret face. I
When we do run into her, Annie always looks like she would still like to french kiss Bing. She barely looks at me and when she does, she behaves as if I have massive body odor and she is trying to get past that fact.
Plus, for some odd reason, each and every time we see Annie, I always seem to either be limping and using a cane or else I have no makeup on and I am having a bad hair day. My clothes almost always are sporting a ketchup stain or grass stains from gardening, etc. In short, I look like Granny Clampett when I wish I looked like Elly May.
Annie calls Bing frequently with questions about "school stuff." Bing is always very polite and friendly and always turns down her requests to "meet for coffee and talk about that fundraiser" etc. She also sends Bing cards in the mail from time to time. Just funny little thinking of you cards. On the inside, it always says something like, "I am so glad that we are friends!" Bing reads them, shrugs and discards them. Sometimes, she throws them away without reading them and I like that best.
Again. I
But, I make it a point to never let her see that. And I will be damned if I will turn into some sort of needy clinger when we see her. I never stoop to putting my hand on Bing's arm or getting a sign out of my purse that says, she's taken, you bitch and putting it on Bing's chest.
Well, Annie's son just graduated from college. She sent Bing (my name was nowhere on the card) an announcement. Bing sent him money. She didn't tell me that she did that until the thank you card came in the mail.
And I freaked. I am embarrassed about this. Because Annie's children don't deserve to be in on my
At any rate, it was high time that Bing and I discussed Annie. We both acknowledged it. But, with Liv around it was hard to find time to talk about it. Plus, Bing knows that I tend to get very um....okay...it's the truth...sarcastic and venomous about Annie. Bing truly believes that Annie is "Totally harmless...she just wants to be friends. I wish I knew why you react so strongly to her. You have exes. I don't get all snotty when Cory is in town and calls you. Annie is a good person, maybe a little lonely, but she is basically kind of shy, you know?"
No, I don't know this. She puts on a great act, though.
So, we talked it through in the restaurant and we agreed that it was okay that Bing had sent her son money for his graduation. We also agreed that she needs to talk to Annie about boundaries. We both know that Annie will just sputter that "but we are still friends...why can't I send cards?" Bing said that from now on, she will simply toss all Annie's correspondence in the trash and that when she calls on the phone, if it isn't some urgent school business, she will get off the phone.
As arguments go, this one was fairly painless. And I don't care what anyone says about lesbians always being part of a big happy family, exes and all....I don't want Annie to be any part of mine.
We came home and Bing suggested that since Liv was gone, we should get some movie at the rental store that we couldn't see with her here. I sent her to the store to pick up something.
Big mistake.
She came home with Superbad. I stared at the DVD.
"Please tell me you are kidding?" I whispered.
She held up another DVD in her other hand. Sweeney Todd. She smiled. "One for me and one for you, babycakes," she said. "C'mon...it is Johnny Depp. Your hetero wet dream man."
I had to laugh. Agreed.
So we watched Superbad last night. And you know, it wasn't as bad as I feared it would be. I didn't howl and stamp my feet like Bing did, but...okay. I chuckled a few times. Okay. Several times.
This afternoon, we are watching Johnny......
It stormed early this morning. I woke up, worried about Liv. Nudged Bing. Before I could even say anything, she cuddled me close, said, "Listen to the rain. It isn't one of those storms. It is just your run of the mill, regular Spring storms. No sirens. No sideways rain. No thunder so loud that your ears ring. No lightning that feels like a whip cracking. Just rain. Go back to sleep, honey....Liv is fine. They are staying in a cabin tonight, remember? She is fine..."
So, I drifted back.
We watched Meet The Press this morning. I cried. I know it is stupid to miss a man who I never knew, but I fucking LIKED Tim Russert. He was just...so everyman. He made politics fascinating. He always seemed to just relish his job. It was a tribute show to him with two of my favorites: Mary Matalin and James Carville. We always watched Meet The Press on Sunday mornings. Sometimes, I didn't sit down and watch it closely, often I was in and out of the living room, but I liked hearing about the politics of the day, what was going on. I loved Tim's questions. It was important to me that Liv grow up listening to politics on Sunday mornings. I wanted to raise a child who was aware of the mechanics of her country, the movers and shakers, how things worked in our government. She never watched closely, often sat on the floor coloring or reading a book. But, it was her background music. That was important to me. I hope they get someone half as interesting to replace Tim.
Sven came over to mow the lawn for Bing as a father/bing's day gift to her. He and I talked for a while. He is only staying in the city for another week and then he goes back to his school to take a summer class and work out with the football team. He will be on first string this year and Bing and I are planning a trip to see one of his games in early October.
Sven is currently without a girlfriend. His girlfriend from Hawaii dumped him. He sat and mused about this as he drank his Dr. Pepper while he took a break from mowing.
"I feel weird not being with someone," he said. "I like having a girlfriend. Don't get me wrong, there are lots of girls that would be with me. When you are on the football team, good lord, they come up to you at parties in droves. I had one girl come up and offer to give me a blow job. She didn't even know my name, Maria! She just knew I was first string football team..."
I asked him if he took her up on it.
He looked down. "This is going to sound so wussy. But, I said no. I mean...I just don't want some slutty girl. I want a...a...nice one. This is going to sound so textbook psych, but I want a girl like my mom, like you. I want someone like mom who is warm and loving and patient and kind and someone like you who is smart and funny."
"You think I'm smart and funny?" I asked him, coyly.
He laughed. "Quit fishin'. Yeah. I think you are smart and funny. You know what is really, really funny? I don't even care that much about looks anymore. When I was in high school, I wanted a big boobed girl who was hot looking. Now, I want something else. I mean, I don't want her to be a dog or anything....."
I told him that I knew what he meant. He wanted substance.
"YES!" he shouted. "I want substance. I want someone who likes ME, not the football player. And if she is hot looking, all the better...but it isn't a prerequisite, you know?"
I looked at him with so much love. THAT'S the Sven I know and love. I told him that with his good looks (and he really is quite nice looking, I think), he would find another girl in no time. But...hey..he was only NINETEEN. Right now, he needed to concentrate on school and football...
He sighed. "You sound exactly like my mother," he groaned. "Hell, you actually ARE sort of like my second mom, you know..."
I jumped up and hugged him even though, frankly, he smelled pretty bad. He hugged me back and then got up to finish the yard. Bing came out to sit with me and watch him. She was shy with happiness at his father/Bing's day gift to her.
We both agreed that he was one of the good ones. He needs to find someone really special. He will. In time.
Bing put her hand on my knee. Waggled her eyebrows at me.
"Hey, when does Liv come home tonight?"
I told her around 8, I thought.
"Still a whole day alone together.." she said, smiling.
Yup.
I got up to go weed the garden. She got up to go clean out the gutters.
I do have a question, though. Do any of you have jealousies regarding your partner's exes?
Annie, eat your heart out, bitch.....
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None of Mr. EM's exes are in the area. When we first started dating, his mattress had come from an ex. She was moving out of state and offered it to him since he'd been sleeping on a futon. Once we moved in together, I told him he had to get rid of it. I couldn't sleep with him in OUR house on HER mattress. He was cool with that.
"Superbad" was a funny movie! We both really enjoyed it. And, oh, "Sweeney"...dear, wonderful "Sweeney"...I absolutely LOVED that movie. I have the Broadway soundtrack and I listen to it on long trips in the car. I can't wait to someday see it onstage. Yeah, raging theater geek...that's me.
In a word, yes. And being in IL while she (they) are in TN, doesn't help.
Oh jeez YES! tons. Once I found some pics of my now husband with a girl from 2 years before he met me, and I have to admit that I later ripped them into tiny tiny tiny shreds and flushed them. Negatives too. He once asked where his "stuff" was in the envelope and I looked innocent and shrugged "what are you talking about, what stuff in there?" of course he couldnt/wouldnt say and I wasnt saying NUTTIN! about what was in there.
You are NOT alone.
HUGS
and happy Bing day to Bing, I wrote about what we made for my sons dad. Fathers day so far here has been GREAT.
gotta go jump in the pool now....
HUGS!
Well, Maria...Annie (bitch) knows exactly what she's doing. Most of it is to irritate you ... more than flirt with Bing. Its her way of getting back at you for being with Bing. This woman is very shallow and small. I know its very hard to do...but ignore her with all your might and don't ever let her know that she is bothering you because that would make her extremely happy. I just hate bitches like her. And....yes, I would feel just like you if I were in your place. Just place your faith in KARMA and don't let her cause trouble between you and Bing. I'm sure, by the sound of things, Bing is totally over her....so don't take out your frustrations on her...even though its tempting. You asked...so this is MHO. Hugs to you, Maria. Hang in there! We watched National Treasure 2 a couple weeks ago...I thought it was great. Its suitable for Liv too.
I hate my husband's ex-girlfriend so bad that I had to cross my arms tight to keep from grabbing her by the hair of her perky blond ponytail and kicking her ass but good.
Does that answer your question?
And there was another significant other once who agreed to meet someone for breakfast who SO obviously wanted to be more than friends. I was so sarcastic and mean about that breakfast that we weren't even able to talk about it for over a year without having a fight.
Hmmm... Hubby has an ex that is in the same town, and when we were first married, she would ring him up once in a great while...but then on the other hand...I never met her and Hubs would always tell me that he got an interesting call from her...it was always open.. so I guess there was no room for jealousy..... but I know where you are coming from...!
My ex is a good friend of ours now. He watched our dog if we go away, and brings little gifts for our daughter when it's his daughter's birthday.
My husband's ex is another story. She doesn't talk to either of us at all. If we do happen upon her (they have a daughter together) the term ice queen comes to mind. This daughter is getting married in November...should be fun. We laugh about being overly nice and polite to her, almost making a game of it.
I don't have any ex jealousies. But it definitely helps that there aren't any exes around.
I did have friend jealousy once. It was hard to work through, mostly because it was hard for me to even talk about - I did NOT like that side of myself. I do not, in general, think of myself as a jealous person, and I did not like the insecurity and big feelings that came from feeling jealous.
Ha - well I actually dated a woman who was still living with hers - YES and I seem like such a bright woman.
You have to e-mail me and let me know how you do "strike throughs" on blogger I have not been able to figure it out.
That or what do do with ex's.
-janet
Yes, good Bing didn't fill you in on waverunners...
No help on exes, no partners right now. With my ex girlfriend I never met any of them, and it wasn't an issue really.
I think Annie is lonely and looking at the past and wishing. It doesn't justify her actions though, and in a simular situation I'd be unhappy with her behavior too. And having a hard time holding my tongue.
Sven sounds like a great kid. Nice to know there's some around still.
I used to but haven't given them any thought for years. When you absolutely know your partner is not a cheater, it's not an issue.
I don't know Bing, but I feel that I would trust her if I did. It does sound as if Annie wants back in, but that's not Bing's fault. You're in good hands.
I love Johnnie Depp but absolutely hated Sweeney Todd. Much too gorey.
Wave runners are jet ski's right? Ok, you probably dont' want to know that but my kids all go on with their dad on holidays and well, they come back with the wind in their hair and eyes all sparkly from fun. Liv would be loving it!
Ex's...oh boy I was terrible when I met my husband he already had an ex-fiancee and a child to her...I was insanely jealous. It made me almost ill. This woman couldn't do anything! I think my ex-husband thought it was quite amusing or flattering and encouraged me to be silly about it all. (I was 21, but he should have known better).
I've always said that 'next time' (if there is a next time) I will be a grown up about ex partners and expect that every man I meet will of course have one and to just take it all with a grain of salt.
But then reading your post I felt myself be just as annoyed as you at Annie...she's encroaching on your space! bad Annie! Annie be gone. :)
Oh my gosh! I have such JEALOUSY towards my husband's ex wife, and right now she is all the way across the country from us. Her family used to call here when we were first married and I made myself physically ill over it. Her sister still calls once in a while and when hubby is in Georgia later on this month for school he's going to see the sister. It's already driving me nuts. My jealousy towards the ex is due to the fact that he has admitted that she was meant to replace me. Sometimes my husband is a flaming idiot!
What a great post Maria. As usual, I read it and then I think about my own life...
Yes, there is jealousy on my part with my husband, but there were few (if any) serious women in his past. So, I deal with it very little. He, on the other hand, is the least jealous person I have ever known, which is a good thing, but sometimes it would be nice to know that one of my past's would bother him..
I miss Tim Russert, too. He was just such a normal, kind, upstanding guy. And it seems that everyone thought that. What a legacy that is! In this day and age, one is lucky to find anyone that has positive things to say, and to feel that way about a journalist is really something.
I'm sure that Live made it home safely and has many great stories to tell...
Have a great week!
I don't have time to read this long of posts.
I'm still on friendly term with my exes, so it would be hypocritical of me to moan about a partner's but yes, jealousy creeps in; you just have to kick the crap out of it before it bites.
My mother always called it "the green eyed monster" which I thought was a bit rich since I have green eyes. Jealousy always creeps in when someone oversteps the boundaries and Annie has overstepped with Bing. Bing should simply tell her to quit sending her cards; that it is insulting to you and unnecessary. She isn't a threat to you though Maria, anyone who has to send little cards like that is very insecure. As for her children, you are right, it is a totally different relationship and again, no threat to you but Bing should have mentioned to you that she was sending money. My goodness, what a terribly judgemental person I am. Sorry Bing!
We had a problem about five years ago with a "good friend" who apparently was not an ex but I think used M.B and liked having him around. She kept sending text messages to MB - like at 7.30 am on a Sunday morning. This woman on the one occasion that she came to our house for dinner stole my favourite CD. I laid down the law that I didn't want that woman in any part of my life; that if he wanted to have coffee with her or whatever, fine, just don't tell me about it and don't discuss it with me, ever. And that's the way it's been.
As for my ex's, they're not part of our lives although M.B did come to the funeral of a particular ex's father with me. It was a large funeral and it was the right thing to do, so they met and shook hands but that was the only time. He now lives in New York so he's no threat either. My ex-husband has remarried and I don't see him but I do see his children. M.B copes with that in the same way that I cope with his children.
M.B's ex wife is a pain in the butt but we cope with her. As for his ex-girlfriends, he has dinner with some of them every week because they are still part of his "group". I used to be jealous but I'm not any more and get along with most of them too. I try not to think of them with him in that way. Besides, he loves ME - I think!!
I don't have any jealousy over Brian's exes. They are so unlike me in every way that I don't know what he saw in them!! And really, I don't mean that with any where near as much ego as it might sound like. Now there are two women that we know that can prick my jealously a bit...mostly because they are both smart, a little quirky and have a lot more kink to them than I do. Smart and kinky can really do a number on my husband!!
As for Brian's jealousy..he denies it exists. However, I think it does. Especially where one of his buddies is concerned.
My hubby pulls the restaurant trick on me too!
I have always been a wildly jealous person, but not since I have been with my husband. I think it says more about him (perhaps the most honest and trustworthy person I have ever met) than it does about me, though. He worked with one for a year and the other one lives with his best friend - so I have had to adjust to their presence in our lives.
i love your candor-- it's like we get to read your diary or your most intimate thots.
internet access has been few and far between lately but i'm posting something tomorrow or so that i've been working on...
peace
Well, you hit it on the head: Bing has exes, but she LOVES YOU! I mean, really, she's crazy about you.
I am lucky. Simon was never very good at relationships. Although he managed to get deflowered somewhere along the way, he was never in a real relationship until he met me.
I had a lot of boyfriends, including some great boyfriends. I stay in touch with three of them, but Si is not the jealous type. I'm grateful, because I value these friendships.
BTW, I dropped off Sara at Girl Scout Camp this morning, so I sympathize with your Liv-withdrawl.
it's a valid feeling, though not healthy, and can hurt your self esteem if you tend to put your lover on a pedistal. Never forget your own worth and remember that you are UNIQUE and valuable with or without a love interest.
i don't have any bfs. my ex is a biker dude who dates biker chicks. Dated. He doesn't seem to be interested in them lately and is quite into trying to get me back. I am afraid that friendship is as good as it gets, and I worry more about hurting him and encourage him to date other women. When he does, I feel a slight twinge. I try not to allow that to bother me as deserves to have someone who will love him over anyone else.
I don't have a BF now. No exes to think about.
Are the comments on this post making you laugh a little? I'm finding them sort of amusing.
"Although he managed to get deflowered somewhere along the way..." It sounds like her husband accidentally lost his virginity on the way to work or something.
Funny.
The guy I'm seeing now has an ex who is in the area. She called him on his b-day to take him to lunch and ask him to help her move. I got pretty jealous, I'm ashamed to say. He told me he only went to lunch with her because he was dying to tell her about me. Later, I got more jealous when he revealed that they had considered getting back together just this past January. (She moved out about two years ago.) That made me jealous, too. I don't know why.
I think jealousy stems from insecurity and the feeling that we are somehow undervalued. If our beloved is giving too much attention to another, that somehow translates into feeling less valuable ourselves. I've been trying to come up with answers myself. If I get any great ones, I'll share. :)
Hey, if you get a chance, read my last post. It is something I'd really value your input on.
So, what is the special at Granny's cafe? I always think that the smaller places have the most interesting food.
Oh, it's just a little place about 12 miles out of town that serves basic food in good portions.
The country atmosphere is really cool, they have chickens and goats and doves and such out back.
I remodeled a lot of it and some of the hotel rooms and for a while I opened the cafe and cooked the breakfast shift until Terry could find another cook.
Since I have pretty much retired I don't do much there anymore unless he is in a pinch, like during a bad wind storm a while back when I went and repaired a building for him.
He's okay, for a christian, I like Terry and he never lets me pay for what I eat when I'm there.
I think I'm a pretty jealous person because I'm insecure, but I'm not jealous about my husband. We've been married ten years and I know that he would never do anything that I'd have to worry about.
We found some old pictures that belonged to his ex and he wanted to throw them out. I actually was the one who sent them to her because there were pictures of her grandparents, I know if they were mine, I would want them.
But I wouldn't seek her out on purpose, ha ha.
I agree with Kate. That's the real deal right there, you know?
As for Annie's son sending a graduation announcement, it's tough enough to graudate with the kind of debt load that students have these days. His not including your name was not right, but hopefully a simple oversight or something like that rather than being mean spirited. I didn't even know some of the people my grandparents had me send announcement to when I graduated. I just went down the list they gave me addressing envelopes accordingly.
Sounds like your daughter is having a blast out there camping. She'll have some great stories to tell when she gets back.
Waverunner! COOLNESS! I am jealous of Liv.
If MV is jealous of any of my ex's, she hasn't shown it at all. In fact, I think she genuinely likes both of them (the third she has not met, and in all likelihood will not meet -- although I tend to stay friends with ex's there is always the exception that proves the rule?). Whenever I've thrown a party, she's asked if they would be there (it has depended on the party). And, I've caught her yacking both of them up.
I've met two of her ex's: one whom I genuinely liked a whole lot, the other one I couldn't stand (IMHO, just a plain old bitch). Fortunately, MV doesn't have much contact at all with the bitch, and the cool ex she is great friends with, and I genuinely like her and like her friendship with MV.
So, I guess that neither of us seem to be afflicted with jealousy on the ex front. Then again, there isn't any prompting going on with the ex's that might provoke that response. I think both MV and I have the potential to be jealous and proprietary. It just hasn't come up at all.
Well, Hubbz never dated anyone for longer than 5 or 6 months before we met, so I don't have much to worry about. He does have a lot of female friends of whom I was jealous when we first started dating, but I got over that.
Glad to hear Liv is having fun. Can't wait to hear the details. And Bing is right, you don't want to know what a Wave Runner is.. you'll never let her near a lake again :-)
I'm not the jealous one in our relationship. Dan is and it makes him crazy that I know so many people here. Hey, I grew up here and of course there are a lot of guys that I used to date. Doesn't mean I still want to though....
On the other hand, we went to breakfast the other day and the waitress already knew Dan's order. I asked him, "Do I need to kick her ass?" heh.
Man, if I were jealous, there would be a problem as she's been out and in the Bay Area/San Francisco, the Costco of Lesbians, since the late 70s. Free love, baby.
I've met at least one of them and expect I'll meet others. It doesn't bother me, though I have to admit, I get a little tired of hearing about the last two ex's. Not from jealousy, but from a place of, "That was then, this is now."
Maria! It's Tuesday! How was the camping trip? the suspense is killing me!
I read this right after reading about Kate dropping her daughter off at camp. Just goes to show you the power of how similar emotions are all around.
And like Kate, I am in touch with three of my exes... they were even IN my wedding! I am grateful to not have a jealous husband.
Jealousy is probably one of the worst things a person can experience, though, and so I feel for you. I have felt jealousy recently, though not because of my husband. Go figure! It sucks.
I am so going to read that riff on Montessori moms!!!!
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