First, before I get into the next post, I want to thank all the readers who sent me e-mails asking if my family and I were okay after the shooting at the Westroads Mall here in Omaha.
Yes, we are fine. We are not mall shoppers; I haven't been in a mall in over three years and none of my family or friends were there. Thanks so much, though, for caring enough to check. Thanks especially to my good buddy, Jill over at Charming and Delightful, who sent me emails from her hospital bed after giving birth! Like she didn't have enough on her plate? You're the best, Jill, and Spike is gorgeous.
The whole shooting thing makes me too sick to blog about it much. Yesterday, after I met with a client and had some spare time before I had to pick up Liv, I stopped in a book store to browse and suddenly it hit me: This was exactly what one of the victims of this sick boy was doing when he was shot. He had wrapped up a business meeting in Omaha and stopped to do a little Christmas shopping before he headed back home to Iowa. My heart aches for all those families. Just aches.
Okay...going on.
I have been thinking about marriage, co-habitation, whatever, a lot lately. Probably the season, all the commercials that show shy husbands surprising their fabulous wives with diamond necklaces, the TV shows that seem to show only shiny happy people (thank you R.E.M.) enjoying their shiny happy families and have read a few blogs where hot crazy love seems to be the main event. Plus, my own frame of reference from my parents was not based on much reality. They NEVER fought in front of us children and I was shocked when one of my aunts told me that my Da had actually had an affair and that my mother nearly had a nervous breakdown over it. Where was I when all of this happened? I don't remember even a wary glance. Not that I think that parents should have knock-down-drag-outs in front of their children, but honestly, I grew up thinking that my parents never argued and that it was unnatural for couples to do so. And since my sisters and I were not allowed to argue with each other, I figured that families that didn't present a Hallmark card picture to the world were just...bad.
I think that I have a pretty decent marriage. Bing and I love each other. We work hard to get through our differences and celebrate our good times.
But, my marriage is not perfect. Bing and I fight. We are very, very different and come from very different childhoods. Bing is a yell-and-get-it-out person. I am a sulk-and-brood-silently-and-then-explode-two-weeks-later type.
Neither one of us are very romantic. We do dance together sometimes and exchange a nuzzle or two or three. We tease each other a lot. But, we don't kiss in public (and frankly that would not be a very smart thing to do in Nebraska for two women) or call each other "bunny pie" or "sweetums."
I'm not a particularly sexual being. Bing is. She is pretty much ready to go at it if I remove my socks. She tells me that I make her "work for it" and that she often feels as though I have to be coaxed into lovemaking.
She's right. But, as I tell her, it is nothing personal. I am very attracted to her. I am just not all that sexual. Once I am on that road, I tend to heartily enjoy myself, but I often have to be sort of...well...talked into it.
I get there. I'm just sort of slow.
And that is not our only obstacle. I have discovered that what I thought was so cute about her before we became a couple, I no longer find so adorable. I used to find it very sweet that she had to have all the towels folded a certain way in the linen closet. Now that she is sighing heavily and yanking out the towels that I just put away to refold them, I no longer find it so appealing.
I used to laugh at the way she drove like we were on the way to the emergency room even if we were just going to the grocery store. Now, it annoys the snot out of me. She, in turn, used to tease me about driving like a little old lady. She no longer finds that something to smile about. It makes her want to jump out of her skin. I can see it on her face.
She has a strange set of housekeeping methods. She detests crumbs on the counter, a sink faucet that is not wiped off neatly every time you use it and insists on a spanking clean kitchen floor at all times. Yet, she puts her mail in little piles all over the house and gets mad if I throw away an expired ad before she has seen it.
She irons her jeans. I iron....nothing. Maybe a tablecloth if we are having company.
Neither one of us like to discuss our feelings. We have friends who swear that couples therapy is the only thing that keeps them together. I think Bing and I would rather have root canals than sit down together and talk about our feelings with a therapist. This is odd as I used to be the therapist that people came to talk to. So, while in practice, I made a living at it, in private, wild horses couldn't have drug me into a counselor's office unless one of us started robbing 7-11's willy nilly or indulged a need for a bottle of Jack Daniels every night.
We fight. We grow apart. One of us notices and yanks us back together.
Sometimes, I admit that while I love Bing, I do not necessarily like her. And I am quite certain that she feels the same way about me.
I worry when a big obstacle comes along. Right now, she is still in interviews for a job in California. She wants to get this job badly. Me? Not so much. But, if we have to make a decision, well...we will. It is never easy, though.
Love is never simple for us. It involves a lot of negotiation and compromise, neither of which are my strong points. Plus, good hell...sometimes she just plain fucking bugs me. Sometimes, I look at her eating something and think to myself god, she drinks water like a fish and why must she gobble up her food as if someone is going to yank the plate away from her?
I'm sure that if asked, she would have many, many gripes about me. Yet, we both stay. We figure it out. One of us gives in or steps back or forward or whatever is needed for the good of the marriage and the family.
It is exactly like this.
And well, yeah...we figure out how to dance together again, how to get back to where we need to be. Because, in the end, it is worth it. We are worth it.
How about you? If you are married, co-habitating, etc...is your life like a jewelry commercial really? If you are divorced, what pulled you apart? If you are single, what are you looking for?
Just curious.
Saturday, December 08, 2007
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We so do the same thing! My husband and I got married after 3 months of dating. UGH. There was so much we learned about one another in that first year, and a lot of it was not good. I got pregnant right away (3 months after we married) and I was sick all of the time. His smell, his breath, his deodorant, all made me sick. It was AWFUL. I questioned what was I doing many, many times. We were in love and we made it work.
Fast forward to TC's problems with speech and behavior and my journey to find out what was wrong and then my marriage suffered terribly. I was angry that my husband didn't jump on board with me. I cried almost daily for 2 months. Our marriage was in trouble BIG TIME. I wanted to leave. But I stuck it out and hubs is actively being there everyday. And things are better now.
He is very, very sexual, me not so much. I have to be in the mood. And I have to be talked into it but once I get started, it's all good.
When I am angry, I am a screamer, he is passive. He hates that I scream, I hate that he just sits there saying nothing. I have said, "DAMN..give me some type of reaction already!"
So yes, we have our issues. I can go on about the stuff he does that I hate and I am sure he can do the same!
No marriage is perfect, Maria... if that makes you feel better. There are times when I can't stand to be in the same room as Hubbz. We even got into a fight on the way to the hospital on Wednesday. I think I'm too hard on him sometimes. My expectations of his actions and reactions are not realistic, in terms of his personality and what I know of him after being together for 10 years. But I think he's a little guilty of that too...
Marriage is hard. Just hard and sometimes no fun. I usually roll my eyes at those commercials with the loving families and mushy couples, or we make fun of them together. Because what are the chances that's actually going on in anyone's house??
A couple years ago there was a commercial with a couple trudging through the snow to find a perfect tree that the man had lit up for the women in the middle of nowhere. Supposed to be romantic, blah blah blah. Our running joke was that if Hubbz tried that with me, I'd be all "Where are you taking me? My feet are cold. This is stupid. Are were there yet?" and totally ruin the romantic mood.
LOL... at least we know and can (sometimes) appreciate each other's shortcomings.
I really can't understand why Court signed up for life with me... I'm old, I'm weak, I have a ton of baggage, and I have a kid. We are an unlikely couple. But, she gets me. It always boils down to that simple fact. I am so lucky to have her for my wife.
And OMG she ROCKS in bed.
My first divorce (stop snickering) occurred because we were too young - 18 & 21 - and his family had too much say in our lives.
My second (quit it) happened because we didn't love each other. There was abuse involved, but we never should have gotten married in the first place. We buckled under social pressure to be married.
Now, I'm not looking for anything. I'm happy this way, for the most part. But, if I ever stumble across a manly specimen who adores me unconditionally and doesn't mind my need for space...I might take him out for coffee once in a while.
I'm afraid that's about all I can commit to at this point in time. Meh.
Maria, thank you for writing about this. The subject has been kicking around in my head for quite a while, but reading your words has really helped me to articulate it as well. I have referred to this post in one of mine. I hope that is Okay?
I did wonder about you when the news of the gunman at the Omaha mall broke. That it could have been anyone at all is truly scary. I am glad you are well.
Stay warm!
-T-
I am one of those who has the marriage that lots of my friends envy. And it is pretty great, I admit, but it makes me . . . uneasy that anyone would hold my marriage up as some sort of gold standard that they wish they could achieve.
Brad and I are very much in love but we have a lot of similarities with you and Bing. We both hate the way the other drives. I get irritated with the way he eats and I think some of the food he eats is disgusting.
We argue because he promises to clean if I cook and he rarely does. He gets crabby sometimes if the laundry isn't caught up and I tell him he has two arms and legs and he can do the fucking laundry himself.
Just today, while we were out Christmas shopping, he cracked a joke at my expense that I didn't think was very funny and I called him a bastard.
So, no, my marriage is not like a jewelry commercial. It is pretty fantastic and I am a very happy wife 99% of the time. But it takes work. And luck, sometimes.
This is a biggie.
I could write a lot but the one important thing I want to say is that I've found it's important to distinguish "roommate" issues (towel folding -- we have that one too, btw -- eating habits, dish-doing, etc.) from relationship issues (sex and affection, anger/resentment stuff, emotional things).
Because: all roommates are freakin' annoying eventually, whether you love them as much as life itself or whether they're just paying some of the rent. When I realize I'm angry with Mr. S. over a roommate issue, it makes me feel less anxious about being angry with him. If that makes sense. It's like the anger is demoted... not less felt, but less significant.
I do know that if I am ever single again, I won't remarry. I'm well-suited to living alone and I'm not willing to go through the work of a marriage for anyone else.
We're the same there..Maria... and coming from two different cultures even makes it harder some times. But we have both stopped "expecting", and lifting each other up on pedestals. It is not a bad meaning..it is just so that we are not disappointed if something doesnt go the way it should...
You're right, its the christmas thing that makes us think about coupledom, I've been happily single for 3 years but am forced to to think about my choices when Christmas comes around.
I want to be in love, I want to feel all the good emotions but I cant be bothered with the crap, I wont let someone else parent my children, I wont justify any of my choices however small to someone else, I wont get into the squabbles, I just cant bear the day to day stuff and I cant have one without the other it seems!
No marriage is simple....we all have to work at it. A lot.
Tim and I are another couple who got married after only a few months of dating so the first couple of years were spent getting to know each other. In retrospect, probably not the best way to do things.
We fight. I am an exploder. He is a quiet fumer. Sometimes it is so big the kids see it. It's never violent, though, just loud.
Tim had an affair a few years back. It was a hellish year for all of us. The kids know something was not right with their dad, but I don't think they know what.
We just keep working on it.
My husband and I are constant bickerers. It alarms my friends and my parents, who, when they argue, argue looong and hard and stubbornly. But I only bicker with people I love, who I know will always love me. Otherwise I just clam up, because I don't want people to hate me.
When we argue properly it can last hours. He's always the one to break it. I'm so bad at saying sorry.
When other people see us fighting, they tend to blame me, but they don't know him like I do, and let me tell you, sometimes his silence is waaay more cutting than words ever could be.
I think that's going to require a post. I also think it is awesome that you two work to keep your marriage together. That effort is something I'm only now experiencing.
Hello - after 11 years of co-habitating with my partner M, we have come full circle many times and I expect we will continue to do so in the future. She and I are polar opposites of each other - and sometimes that is fun and other times I/we wonder how we have ever stayed together as long as we have. It comes down to something very simple: she is my best friend and I am hers. When we get to the point where we can't stand each other (this does happen) we are smart enough to talk about it. (this has been a learning lesson on my part...I'm not the communicator). We don't always compromise, but we do try to understand.
No one understands me better than M. We have fun, we fight, we balance budgets, play, groan about housework and argue about who is going to take out the garbage.
Like you said...it's worth it. We are worth it too!
I don't really know how to say what i want to say. I am a bitch. There - now that was easy. After my first marriage, I knew I would never, ever NEED anyone again, and that has been going very well. My husband knows all along that I don't NEED him. I have never thought about how that made him FEEL, it is just the way it is. Until I find myself unable to walk. Suddenly, I need him. That has certainly sucked. And I am learning a whole lot. I don't necessarily like it, btw. But I believe things happen for reasons. I always have believed that. And it WOULD take something monumental to teach ME, because I am pretty hard headed. So, no commercial here. Just a temporarily, (I hope), wheelchair bound middle age woman, with the most understanding, loving, helpful husband on the planet. One that loves me, and really meant "in sickness and in health". I often wonder if I am that committed....and certainly hope I am, without being tested or taught on that one, too. But, you really, really can teach an old dogs new tricks...just thought you might want to know that. :)
I've thought long and hard about why my most recent marriage didn't work (the first two were just horrible choices to begin with). While I could site a long list of things that weren't good about him (and he probably could about me as well), I've come to the conclusion that we both wanted very different things out of life, and had very different ideas about what money should be used for. That, and his unwillingness to place a high priority on our relationship is what tore us apart.
Wow...thanks to all who responded! There are many posts that I didn't publish, some because I was asked not to and others because they were so frank that I wasn't certain if you would be comfortable if I did publish them.
All I can say is that I hit a nerve, that much is obvious. And THANK YOU for letting me know that I am not the only one who doesn't have playful snowball fights outside with my spouse and while we are rolling around, she presents me with a diamond ring. And yes, I JUST saw that commercial this morning. I stuck my finger in my throat and Bing laughed and threatened to throw me outside in a snowbank and give me my Christmas present early: a pair of new kitchen scissors. Yeah, the romance continues......
I'm always so late to these comment parties, curses! I'll throw my two cents in anyway.
My parents were not the model of a good marriage, either. My mom and Dada argued- not too much in front of me, but sometimes. My dad was condescending and bombastic. My mom... well, she would get angry but stew about whatever he said that hurt her. I don't think my dad had any idea, for years, how much of an ass he was.
42 year later, they are together still- after my dad nearly destroyed his relationship with me and came close to death. That was 8yrs ago. That's when he woke up. Now they appreciate and take care of each other better than they have since I was born.
As for myself, I sadly must admit to having some of my Dad's traits when I fight. I can be cutting both with words and silence- the latter of which is far worse. I get angry and blow up, oftentimes because I lose perspective on whether the cause of the argument is really important or not. I do not, however, hold a grudge. Thank god for that.
I went through a period of depression late last year/earlier spring of this year which nearly destroyed my relationship. I shut Bayou out in every way possible- emotionally, mentally, sexually. I rarely spoke. I dove internally into a still-deep well of guilt, fear, and regret.
Sadly, it took me blowing up spectacularly and smashing up some glassware to wake up- the sight of blood and deep cuts tends to do that. 13 stitches and a visit to my primary care later, I got on medication and some therapy to get to the root of my issues. And I started talking.
All that I love and treasure about my relationship refocused and became relevant again. Bayou began to trust that I was truly communicating and not withholding. We found ourselves back where we had been less than a year prior. But those 9mo were hell and I can say I have learned some valuable and painful lessons.
My marriage of nearly five years works because we work at it. Bayou and I are very different, but we are compatible in the ways that matter. We inspire, support, nurture, compromise, and listen. We give the other space and time to pursue their interests, and we give affection- something I am not good at, thanks to my upbringing and deep fears of rejection.
I'm struck by your struggles and your trials, Maria- I can relate to so much of what you have experienced, and continue to experience. Writing this comment/novel has been cathartic, although I'm not usually one to start my Sunday morning with tears.
But thank you to the moon and back for your frankness and expressive ways; I'm humbled once again by the memories of the near disaster in our marriage, and the peace and love that has flowed from it.
Don't be too hard on yourself and Bing; I think you relationship is beautiful and intimate and as human as it gets. Treasure that; so many cannot claim an iota of the experience you have.
My husband and I had drifted apart. I guess I should say I did the drifting. The kids consumed me. They still do. It took a crisis of a marital kind to shake me to the core. And now life is so infinitely better. Do I despise things he does? Yeah, a lot. And he'd say, "Right back at ya, sister!" So, no, we'll never be a jewelry commercial. But I'd rather not have that soundtrack playing in our background, thank you very much.
Great post, amazing comments. I am going through a 6 1/2-year long bad spell and feel trapped. We just cohabitate now; I moved downstairs, my daughter wants to know why we don't share a room and my mother wants to know why it seems we can hardly stand to be in the same room with each other. I will ponder...I may not post, but thank you for the food for thought.
Be well...
I like your title: indeed, no one tells you that marriage is constant work, with its ups and downs and this catches many couples unprepared (myself included). I have been married for 5 years and honestly cannot say whether I would do the same again if I could live my life again. My husband and I have our happy moments (but more numerous fights) and I frequently wonder what a lie detector would think of my answer on whether I love him (I still think the answer is yes). A friend of mine similarly commented as a few other friends were getting married "if someone had told me marriage was such a compromise, I would not have believed it".
When I saw the picture of Von Maur's, without even reading the headline, I knew where it was.
Omaha is the place I call "home." Wasn't raised there, only live there a few years, but it's the place that was most me.
Now, I'm in California. In and out of dating situations and a long relationship. We didn't negotiate - addiction is a powerful and destructive thing - I hung in there as long as I could until I saw my life wafting out the window like so much second-hand smoke.
I'm glad yours is working.
I tell my kids this...
wake up happy everyday. so that when you open your eyes in the morning and reach out that person lying next to makes you smile. every day.
of course... there will be a handful of days this won't work... i am realistic.
I agree that no marriage is like those shown on tv. In fact, sometimes I would go so far as to say those kinds of images do a DISSERVICE to marriage. I am afraid that many young people watching such images begin to believe that is what marriage is supposed to be and then are sorely disappointed (and many end in divorce) when it is not so rosy. Marriage is hard work. It isn't glamorous. I think you and Bing are excellent marriage role models, and Liv is lucky for that. You love one another. You have problems. You work them out. That is what a healthy marriage is about.
"Marrying someone boring would be too easy." This is one of my favorite Bernie quotes. What I love most about him is his quiet, self-assured manner. Bernie is always right. Its frustrating but true. He lets me go off on my tangents, never throws it in my face, but I come back and say, "put another notch in your know-all belt" and that's that.
We compliment each others temperament very well. He enjoys my constant goofiness, opinionated comical rants, obtuse remarks.
My over-thinking, obsessive-compulsive tendencies.
I'm a mixed bag of emotions. You never know what you're gonna get.
Frankly, I doubt anyone else could stand me. Did I mention he's Buddist? I have 2 names for him,
Bernie Bodhisattva and St. Bernard.
I've never come across anyone like him. He's so delicious. Hes so sweet. He IS the guy with the diamonds in the snow (just because I told him that if he didn't know what to give me for a gift, diamonds would work. I was kidding of course...but he does it!)
I used to think it was very difficult to live with a person who has literally made no mistakes in his life. But then I realized how boring his life has been and how colorful and alive I must seem in comparison. I am attracted to his stability, intelligence and humor
and he's attracted to my giant boobs. It works for us :-)
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